Reasons to give up Islam

Reasons to give up Islam.

Hatun and a Christian brother give a Muslim 3 reasons to become a Christian, while he fails to come up with one convincing reason to become a Muslim.

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15 thoughts on “Reasons to give up Islam”

  1. No one should criticize this brother until they know for sure that they would have the courage to walk in his shoes as an apostate. Why should he leave? Should he change his life and the life of his family is such a drastic fashion? Perhaps he risks being killed by a relative. As a Christian, there would be a more clear Heaven and Hell. There is no second chance to get out of Hell. Hell has no levels of different comfort. For the most fundamental Christians, there is no Purgatory. The way is narrow and it will have difficulties. There is no promise of seventy virgins. There is no promise that your good works will be appreciated by the community at large. Perhaps you will be persecuted or suffer in a heathen land or increasingly hostile government. There is no right of retaliation because sins are committed primarily against God, not you or your family. Retaliation can give satisfaction but not to God. Justice is fact-dependent and without truth, you can not even have justice. In Muslim Heaven you get to indulge your carnal nature. In Christian Heaven, you are free of carnality and the burden that it was in your former life. A Muslim must be on a treadmill of doing good works to obtain salvation. But then, what if the Divine Decree for your life says you are going to Hell anyway? It is not easy being a Muslim and we should pray for them and let the wisdom, mercy and grace of Jesus intercede for them.

  2. The corrupt Gospel makes Holy Spirit the sender of Jesus:

    In the Old Testament Isaiah 61:11 has the LORD, whereas Gospel of Luke corrupted it by rather having “he” (Spirit), as the sender of Jesus.
    Isa 61:1
    The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound;

    Lk 4:18
    The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,

    1. I don’t think there is any way to untangle this without being a person considerable linguistic skills, both Hebrew and Greek. Jesus reads from a scroll in Luke 4:18 and that scroll had to contain the bulk of the ideas rendered from Isa 61:1. The speaker in Isa 61:1 is Isaiah. I am sure if you called Dr. James White, he would smooth out your problem with it. The “sender of Jesus” will have to be determined out of your presuppositions. That is why some people understand it and some people are hopelessly lost. I don’t deny that the Bible has been corrupted, but, as I said, as time goes on, we find older and older copies that show where the corruptions are and they point to the villains who did the corruption in general. The Muslim can not do this because the older copies of the Qur’an were burned or boiled in vinegar. The ahadith was heavily edited, discarded and compiled years after they were written and collected. Unfortunately, they can not even point to a date the saying was remembered. So, they are full of contradictions. Muhammed said not to assassinate but no one disputes that he was a frequent user of assassination. Maybe he meant not to assassinate if it is not required by the current situation? Whatever the Muslim has now will never get any better due to archeology or linguistics. The Gospel message is still the same now as it was when it was first written down and passed around. Jesus is the only way to peace with God.

  3. The Bible has many theological traps, hidden snares, and linguistic holes that can mislead you if you don’t have a proper knowledge of Jewish Monotheism.

    Without a correct Jewish context, Isaiah is the great “I AM” from before the world began:
    Isa 48:16
    Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there I AM, and now the Lord GOD and his Spirit hath sent me.

  4. [email protected] says: The corrupt Gospel makes Holy Spirit the sender of Jesus:
    In the Old Testament Isaiah 61:11 has the LORD, whereas Gospel of Luke (Luke 4:18) corrupted it by rather having “he” (Spirit), as the sender of Jesus.
    Isa 61:1
    The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound;
    Lk 4:18
    The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,”

    Interesting indeed.
    Both the Jewish and the Septuagint scholars also noticed more subtle corruptions, how Luke (such as in KJV) omits and adds several words, as free as he desires.
    – Omitting the word “the LORD” in Hebrew, being substituted with “he” in Septuagint.
    – Adding a new Greek phrase in Septuagint: “kai typhlois anablepsin” (and recovering of sight to the blind) which is not existing in Hebrew.
    In Luke, there are two corruptions:
    – Keeping a corrupt Greek addition of Septuagint, which is not existing in Hebrew: “typhlois anablepsin” (and recovering of sight to the blind).
    – Adding a new Greek phrase, which is not existing in Septuagint, in order to restore the Hebrew version: “aposteilai tethrausmenous en aphesei” (to set at liberty them that are bruised).

    Thus, three different verses as comparison (with * as addition in Septuagint, ** as addition in Luke):
    Hebrew 61:1. The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound;
    Isa 61:1 Lxx: pneuma kuriou ep eme ou eneken echrisen me euangelizesthai ptochois, apestalken me iasasthai tous suntetrimmenous ten kardian, keruxai aichmalotois aphesin, (*kai tuphlois anablepsin = and recovering of sight to the blind).
    Luke 4:18. pneuma kuriou ep eme ou eneken echrisen me euangelizesthai ptochois, apestalken me iasasthai tous suntetrimmenous ten kardian, keruxai aichmalotois aphesin, (*kai tuphlois anablepsin), (**aposteilai tethrausmenous en aphesei = to set at liberty them that are bruised).

  5. Both the Jewish and the Septuagint scholars also noticed a far more subtle textual corruption, how both the Septuagint and Gospel of Luke (such as in KJV) omit and add several words, as free as its writer desires.
    In Septuagint:
    – Omitting the word “the LORD” in Hebrew, being substituted with “he” in Septuagint.
    – Adding a new Greek phrase in Septuagint: “kai typhlois anablepsin” (and recovering of sight to the blind) which is not existing in Hebrew.
    In Luke, there are three textual corruptions:
    – Keeping a corrupt deletion of “the LORD” with “he” replacement in Septuagint.
    – Keeping a corrupt Greek addition of Septuagint, which is not existing in Hebrew: “typhlois anablepsin” (and recovering of sight to the blind).
    – Adding a new Greek phrase, which is not existing in Septuagint, in order to restore the Hebrew version: “aposteilai tethrausmenous en aphesei” (to set at liberty them that are bruised).

    Thus, there are three different verses as comparison (with * as addition in Septuagint, ** as addition in Luke):
    Hebrew 61:1. The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound;
    Isa 61:1 Lxx: pneuma kuriou ep eme ou eneken echrisen me euangelizesthai ptochois, apestalken me iasasthai tous suntetrimmenous ten kardian, keruxai aichmalotois aphesin, (*kai tuphlois anablepsin = and recovering of sight to the blind).
    Luke 4:18. pneuma kuriou ep eme ou eneken echrisen me euangelizesthai ptochois, apestalken me iasasthai tous suntetrimmenous ten kardian, keruxai aichmalotois aphesin, (*kai tuphlois anablepsin), (**aposteilai tethrausmenous en aphesei = to set at liberty them that are bruised).

  6. – Jesus expels and uses a violence to overthrow the property of traders who disturb his focus to prayer in the Temple.
    Mt 21:12
    And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves,

    – Jesus insults those prayers who use repetitive phrase as “pagans”, thus being worse than donkey, but by so he makes the Psalmists and David equal to “pagans” because Psalms 136 has 26 times repetition in the praying, i.e. “for his mercy endureth forever”.

    – Jesus insults those prayers who pray at the public place as the “Hypocrites”, but he makes himself a Hypocrite with his “public” praying.
    Jesus prays to God (asking God’s permission) in the front of the large crowds of Jews for helping him multiply the loaves of fish and bread, as well as for helping him resurrect Lazarus.
    Jn 11:42
    And I knew that thou hearest me always: but because of the people which stand by I said it, that they may believe that thou hast sent me.

    – Jesus does insult the woman as “dog”.
    Mt 15
    26 But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children’s bread, and to cast it to dogs.27 And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters’ table.

    – Book of Revelation insults woman as defilement, even implies that marrying a woman is a filth.
    Rev 14:4
    These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins.

    – In a strange “exotic” oiling treatment, Jesus just lets his feet rubbed and massaged by a strange woman:
    Jn 12:3
    Then took Mary a pound of ointment of spikenard, very costly, and anointed the feet of Jesus, and wiped his feet with her hair: and the house was filled with the odour of the ointment.

    – Jesus insults those prayers who make their prayer more longer as the recipient of “greater damnation”, but there’s no a greater damnation when Jesus prays all night long.
    Mk 12:40
    Which devour widows’ houses, and for a pretence make long prayers: these shall receive greater damnation.
    Versus:
    Lk 6:12
    And it came to pass in those days, that he went out into a mountain to pray, and continued all night in prayer to God.

    1. [email protected]
      says:
      – Jesus expels and uses a violence to overthrow the property of traders who disturb his focus to prayer in the Temple.
      Mt 21:12
      And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves,
      Danny Newton:
      As an unrepentant lover of bacon, I am more upset over the casting of devils into a herd of swine. Matthew 8:30. This would, like always, be easier for you to understand if you had an adequate understanding of the Trinity. The Temple or House of Prayer was turned into a Wal-Mart. Just imagine how you would feel if people were desecrating your mosque by storing arms in it and collecting Zakat to kill innocent people. I am sure you would object to that.

      I don’t know where you got the idea that Jesus used violence. There is a certain level of persuasion that the Son of God naturally has like the time He walked away from an angry crowd. He probably did not become angry until the merchants assured him that the priest had approved of the activity and were getting a piece of the action. Ephesians 4 :26 says “Be angry, and do not sin”: do not let the sun go down on your wrath…” Did Jesus sin when he expelled the moneychangers? The passage explains his reason for being angry. This activity was not prescribed nor permitted. When Jesus died on the cross, he became the final sacrifice and ended the Old Testament system of sacrifices for the remission of sins. These animals that were being sold would not be needed in the near future.

      It is written that Jesus will come and reign for 1000 years with a rod of iron. I don’t know exactly what that means but it seems to suggest that there will still be human depravity plus free will during that time and there will be justice at the same time. This is something that no human government has been able to produce before it destroys itself with unrighteousness.

  7. [email protected] :
    – Jesus insults those prayers who use repetitive phrase as “pagans”, thus being worse than donkey, but by so he makes the Psalmists and David equal to “pagans” because Psalms 136 has 26 times repetition in the praying, i.e. “for his mercy endureth forever”.

    Most Christians are not going to understand your criticism because of the belief that the Psalms represent songs and even back then and in Hebrew, songs often repeated themselves in the chorus. Sometimes, the Psalms are read as responsive reading. The leader reads the first line and the total group reads the next line. Go back and listen to George Handle’s work “Messiah.” Most songs used in Christian worship are to teach and buttress doctrine. Like all music, some complete the mission better than others and in modern church music it can be too repetitive.

    1. “Danny Newton says: Most Christians are not going to understand your criticism because of the belief that the Psalms represent songs and even back then and in Hebrew, songs often repeated themselves in the chorus. Sometimes, the Psalms are read as responsive reading.”

      Psalms 136 is also a set of repetitive praying to God, such as for a prayer’s foods, remembrance and redemption.
      Ps 136
      23 Who remembered us in our low estate: for his mercy endureth for ever: 24 And hath redeemed us from our enemies: for his mercy endureth for ever. 25 Who giveth food to all flesh: for his mercy endureth for ever.

      “The leader reads the first line and the total group reads the next line. Go back and listen to George Handle’s work “Messiah.” Most songs used in Christian worship are to teach and buttress doctrine. Like all music, some complete the mission better than others and in modern church music it can be too repetitive.”

      Prayer is a indoctrination indeed.
      Since God has already fore-known what a person would ask in prayer, why should he “ask” anything to God, anyway? Thus, prayer is a teaching of doctrine, just like the Psalmist repetition to God, as in Psalms 136.
      Mt 6
      7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking. 8 Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, BEFORE ye ASK him.

  8. How Unitarians read John 1.
    The “Logos” in John 1:1 is God’s creative power of framing all creation’s physicals rather than a being or an entity existing pre-eternally with God. The Logos is inanimate thing which God puts in all creations without exception, either good ones or evil ones. Hence, Jesus cannot be a framer of sins, nor in the body of sinners, Satan and devils, right?
    Heb 11:3
    Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.

    But Jesus is a kind of the later “conscious Logos” apart from the original inanimate Logos. For comparison, Holy Spirit is a kind of “conscious spirit” of God apart from the later inanimate spirits of the living creations (of humans, angels, demons, even beasts).

    The inanimate Logos is called “A God” in John 1:1 just as a man’s own belly can be called “god”, along with the man-made graven images, statues and idols:
    Phil 3:19
    Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly,
    Isa 44:17
    And the residue thereof he maketh a god, even his graven image: he falleth down unto it, and worshippeth it, and prayeth unto it, and saith, Deliver me; for thou art my god.

    Now, How to read John 1 properly?
    Firstly, the Inanimate Logos is a plan, mind of God, worthy to be called “A God” (John 1:1 is similar to Phil 3:19), acting as the framer of the world.
    Secondly, before a small aspect of the inanimate Logos became a flesh (John 1:1-13), both the Jews and certain angels were already made as “sons of God” by a creative power of the inanimate Logos, because they believe in His (God’s) Name. It does not refer to Jesus’ name.
    Thirdly, after the specific Logos became a flesh (John 1:14-18) thru Mary, now the Logos has two kinds: the inanimate one, and the fully conscious one as person, i.e. Jesus.

    Thus, in a nutshell, originally the inanimate Logos is a plan, mind of God, worthy to be called “A God” (John 1:1 is similar to Phil 3:19), as well as the sole framer of all creations without exception. But for the believers of God’s Name, the inanimate Logos has made them the “sons of God” (born not by blood, but of God’s will), even long time before the birth of Jesus.

    One conscious Logos (Jesus) is just a small partial aspect of the whole inanimate Logos who frames the world entirely.

  9. [email protected] :
    – Jesus does insult the woman as “dog”.
    Mt 15
    26 But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children’s bread, and to cast it to dogs.27 And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters’ table.
    D.Newton:
    It may help to start reading several verses above Matt 15:26. It will also help to realize that the Bible is written in flowery language, with metaphors and analogies. The statement, “it is not meet(proper) to take the children’s bread and cast it to the dogs was not part of a conversation that Jesus had with the Gentile woman. It was said to the disciples. What he said and what he did was about to shock them. Jesus did not come only for the Jew, he came to save the whole world. Just before this, Jesus advises the disciples not to “throw pearls before swine.” The term “children’s bread” carries more meaning than the dictionary meaning. Jesus calls himself the bread of life. Logically, “Children’s bread” refers to truth that is intended to be consumed by children or a child’s trusting mind. Jesus said in Luke, ” Assuredly, I say to you, whoever does not receive the kingdom of God as a little child will by no means enter it.” This means that the understanding of heavenly things requires the uncritical faith of a child. To give the children’s bread to a dog would be to waste the effort and a blessing on an animal unable to get a spiritual benefit from it. The woman’s is able to see Jesus for who he was and had faith that was rewarded. At the same time the disciples confirmed that the Jewish attitude about Gentiles was going to change forever in the Kingdom of God.

    It is most interesting that this woman was able to break into the conversation and continue or extend the flowery language. This many be an unexpected capability in a culture where women’s minds are deficient.

  10. “Danny Newton says: It may help to start reading several verses above Matt 15:26. It will also help to realize that the Bible is written in flowery language, with metaphors and analogies.”

    I think the Bible also uses the slur. Woman is defilement. That woman accepts a humiliating slur that she is dogs. That’s stupid. In Islam, Aisha gets angry when women are equated with dogs. In Gospel, a woman accepts to be humiliated as dogs by Jesus.
    That’s different.
    But importantly, Jesus was humiliated on the spot and “amazed” (by her Faith), only “after” hearing her response.
    It means Jesus had not yet known how great her Faith is until hearing hers.

    “The statement, “it is not meet(proper) to take the children’s bread and cast it to the dogs was not part of a conversation that Jesus had with the Gentile woman.”

    What a shame how Jesus doesn’t detect the great Faith in that woman. Her later response then humiliates Jesus’ slur of having underestimated her. Thus, Jesus is not God.
    Had Jesus been God, he would have “known” how great the Faith is in her.

    “Just before this, Jesus advises the disciples not to “throw pearls before swine.” ”

    That’s absurd. Jesus came to and received many Gentiles for their healing, but only toward that woman did he use a slur “dogs”. Jesus underestimated her because he didn’t see how great her Faith is.
    Her doggy response “slaps” him in the face.

    “It is most interesting that this woman was able to break into the conversation and continue or extend the flowery language.”

    Her doggy answer proves how Jesus is NOT God because he had not yet detected the great Faith in her.
    Jesus was humiliated and amazed by her Faith after hearing her response.

    “This many be an unexpected capability in a culture where women’s minds are deficient.”

    In her response, that woman accepts herself to be dogs, that’s stupid, she is deficient. In Islam, Aisha gets angry when women ares equated with dogs.
    But also, Jesus’ mind reading is too deficient, thus he is not God.

    1. If your presuppositions have taken you to the correct conclusions, I am surprised that you don’t find it odd or inconsistent that Jesus would heal her child after He was insulted. Healing this woman’s child, or even speaking to her is thought by many as Jesus serving as a good example to his followers to treat the Gentile with with respect.

  11. Is the author of the Book of Hebrews a liar?
    So, in order to indoctrinate Christians with a lie, the author of Book of Hebrews arranges a set of deceits in Heb 3:
    – Firstly, he dismisses “God” title of Moses.
    – Worse, he mistakenly elevates a lower title “son of god” to be more higher than “God”.
    – hypocritically, he calls Moses “servant” while dismissing Jesus’ same title of “servant” (Phil 2:7).

    Heb 3
    3 For this man was counted worthy of more glory than Moses, inasmuch as he who hath builded the house hath more honour than the house. 6 But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we,

    How could “this man” (human side of Jesus) in Heb 3:3 be counted more greater in glory than Moses whom God called “Elohim”, meaning “God”, even God grants Moses some miracles of giving life (a living serpent) to the rod, sending down manna and water to the Jews, healing the sick Jews via his serpent pole, ransoming the sinful Jews with Passover lamb, et cetera? Even along with Elijah, Moses reappears again to Jesus to tell some things that Jesus had not yet known about future events in Jerusalem.

    How could “Son of God” (in Hebrew: Ben elohim) for Jesus be more greater than God (Elohim) for Moses? How could “son” be greater than “father”?

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