Crucify them? Or pray for those who persecute you?

Crucify them? Or pray for those who persecute you?

Crucify them? Or pray for those who persecute you? Daniel discusses Sura 5:32-3 and Matthew 5:44-45 with a Muslim woman (who didn’t want to be filmed.)

Because of that, We decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land – it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one – it is as if he had saved mankind entirely. And our messengers had certainly come to them with clear proofs. Then indeed many of them, [even] after that, throughout the land, were transgressors.Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment (Sura 5:32-33, Sahih International)

Matthew 5:44-45 4 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.

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Allah says ‘kill them.’

Allah says ‘kill them.’

Godwin discusses Sura 9:29 with a group of Muslims.

Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

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Why does Allah deceive Christians?

Why does Allah deceive Christians?

Hatun and Abbas discuss why Allah would deceive Christians by making it only ‘appear’ as if Jesus was crucified? Islamic tradition even has conflicting reports, with some saying Judas was crucified in Jesus’ place and others saying another disciple volunteered. See Sam Shamoun’s article for more information:…

Hatun also defends the Resurrection accounts in the Gospels. Psalm 22: All the rich of the earth will feast and worship; all who go down to the dust will kneel before him – those who cannot keep themselves alive. 30 Posterity will serve him; future generations will be told about the Lord. 31 They will proclaim his righteousness, declaring to a people yet unborn: He has done it!

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Allah’s shin and Muhammad’s visit to Jersusalem

Allah’s shin and Muhammad’s visit to Jerusalem.

Hatun tries to talk to the Dawah Team about Allah’s shin (which will be revealed to the believer’s on Judgement Day.)

Then the conversation moves to Muhammad’s night journey to Al Aqsa mosque in Jerusalem:

Glory to (Allah) Who did take His Servant for a Journey by night from the Sacred Mosque to the Farthest Mosque (Masjid al-Aqsa), whose precincts We did bless,- in order that We might show him some of Our Signs: for He is the One Who heareth and seeth (all things). S. 17:1

(The Al Aqsa mosque wasn’t built until 709AD – 77 years after Muhammad died.) Apologies for the poor picture quality on this video.

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Allah is father to no-one

Father and child by a lake

We’ve been having discussions recently with a muslima who has got very annoyed at our suggestion that the name ‘Father’ only applies to the Christian God and not to the Islamic deity. She claims it’s OK to call Allah ‘Father’ because Allah ‘fathered’ all of us in the sense he ‘created’ all of us. So by that token, it’s OK for Muslims to call Allah their ‘father.’ But does this reflect what the Qur’an teaches?

Not in the least. If anything, Allah is at pains to point out that this is not how Muslims should perceive him:

He neither begets nor is born, Nor is there to Him any equivalent.” (Sura 112:3-4)

After dismissing the Christian belief in the divine Sonship of Jesus Christ, Allah says:

“Not one of the beings in the heavens and the earth but must come to (Allah) Most Gracious as a slave.” 19:93 (Hilali/Khan)

Nor is ‘Father’ one of Allah’s 99 names. In fact, calling Allah ‘Father’ is ‘a very grave sin’ according to this Muslim commentator:

No one has the freedom, no matter how well-intentioned, to ascribe to Allah Most High such false names and attributes as ‘father’ that they themselves create. That is a very grave sin indeed. Rather Allah Most High has Himself provided all His beautiful names (al Asma al-Husnah) in the Qur’an, and ‘father’ is most certainly not one of them, and can never be one of them. Neither is Allah Most High father, nor can He be even compared with father, since He is incomparable. Indeed elementary common sense reveals that He cannot be father since, although He created both the male and the female, He is neither male nor female. While the English word ‘He’ connotes masculinity, the Arabic word Huwa does not! The ‘moon’, al-Qamar, for example, is in the masculine gender in Arabic and yet is never considered to be male.

In the Qur’an Allah also takes Jews and Christians directly to task for their claim to be ‘children of God’:

But the Jews and the Christians say, “We are the children of Allah and His beloved.” Say, “Then why does He punish you for your sins?” Rather, you are human beings from among those He has created. He forgives whom He wills, and He punishes whom He wills. And to Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and whatever is between them, and to Him is the [final] destination. (Sura 5:18)

In so doing Allah reveals the deficiency of his knowledge about Christian Scripture. No Christian believes God punishes us for our sins; instead out of mercy, Jesus is punished on our behalf:

“But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was on him, and by his wounds we are healed.”(Isaiah 53:5)

Allah also assumes fathers wouldn’t punish their children for their sins, when there are ahadith which clearly advocate punishing children when they do the wrong thing. For example:

It was narrated that Abu Hurayrah said: The Messenger of Allah said: “Teach your children to pray when they are seven years old, and smack them (lightly) if they do not do so when they are ten, and separate them in their beds.”(Narrated by Abu Dawood, 495; classed as saheeh (authentic) by Shaykh al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Jaami’, 5868)

Allah seems to be confusing punishment with discipline, which Hebrews 12 speaks of in a positive sense. God disciplines us as a loving Father also disciplines his children:

“Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you as his children. For what children are not disciplined by their father? If you are not disciplined – and everyone undergoes discipline – then you are not legitimate, not true sons and daughters at all. Moreover, we have all had human fathers who disciplined us and we respected them for it. How much more should we submit to the Father of spirits and live!”

It’s puzzling why Allah misunderstands fatherhood so much, given he is the creator of all things, including human relationships.  Christian Scripture doesn’t just have a different definition of fatherhood, the first person of the Trinity is a Father. There is evidence for this in the Old  Testament as well as the new:

Is this the way you repay the Lord, you foolish and unwise people? Is he not your Father, your Creator, who made you and formed you? (Deuteronomy 32:6)

Jesus teaches his followers to call God ‘Father’ when they pray:

‘This, then, is how you should pray: ‘“Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name” (Matthew 6:9)

How amazing that God wants this kind of intimate, familial relationship with weak, sinful creatures like us! But it’s a relationship that isn’t conferred on us automatically, but by choice, through repentance and faith in Jesus as the unique Son of God who died in our place. “Whoever does not honour the Son does not honour the Father, who sent him.” (John 5:23)

“So in Christ Jesus you are all children of God through faith, 27 for all of you who were baptised into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ.”

So if our Muslims friend wants to call god Father, she needs a different god.

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Summary: Allah takes different forms on Judgement Day

Summary: Allah takes different forms on Judgement Day.

In this summary video, Daniel and Hatun explain from Islamic tradition how, on the day of judgement, Muslims will see Allah as a) an uncovered shin b) The Qur’an (Allah’s speech) on eternal tablets c) The Qur’an will also appear as a ‘pale man’ d) Sura al Baqara and Sura al Imran will appear as flocks of birds.

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Allah’s body parts on Judgement Day

Allah’s body parts on Judgement Day.

Hatun and Daniel discuss Allah’s….shin.

“(Remember) the Day when the Shin shall be laid bare (i.e. the Day of Resurrection) and they shall be called to prostrate (to Allah), but they (hypocrites) shall not be able to do so.” s68:42

Correction: Hatun says (around 40 min) Surah 76 will appear as bird, she should have said Surah 67…

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What is Allah’s shin?

What is Allah’s shin?

Hatun asks Islamic Dawah Team, what Allah’s shin, which Muslims will recognise him by? (Remember) the Day when the Shin shall be laid bare (i.e. the Day of Resurrection) and they shall be called to prostrate (to Allah), but they (hypocrites) shall not be able to do so. s68:42 Narrated Abu Sa’id Al-Khudri: … When there remain only those who used to worship Allah (Alone), both the obedient ones and the mischievous ones, it will be said to them, ‘What keeps you here when all the people have gone?’ They will say, ‘We parted with them (in the world) when we were in greater need of them than we are today, we heard the call of one proclaiming, ‘Let every nation follow what they used to worship,’ and now we are waiting for our Lord.’ Then the Almighty will come to them in a shape other than the one which they saw the first time, and He will say, ‘I am your Lord,’ and they will say, ‘You are not our Lord.’ And none will speak: to Him then but the Prophets, and then it will be said to them, ‘Do you know any sign by which you can recognize Him?’ They will say. ‘The Shin,’ and so Allah will then uncover His Shin whereupon every believer will prostrate before Him and there will remain those who used to prostrate before Him just for showing off and for gaining good reputation. These people will try to prostrate but their backs will be rigid like one piece of a wood (and they will not be able to prostrate). Then the bridge will be laid across Hell.” We, the companions of the Prophet said, “O Allah’s Messenger! What is the bridge?’ He said, “It is a slippery (bridge) on which there are clamps and (Hooks like) a thorny seed that is wide at one side and narrow at the other and has thorns with bent ends. Such a thorny seed is found in Najd and is called As-Sa’dan. …Sahih al-Bukhari 9:93:532

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