Asia Bibi, Freedom of Speech and Muslims’ feelings

Asia Bibi, Freedom of Speech and Muslims’ feelings.

Godwin talks with the Dawah team on whether people should be allowed to critique Islam.

From Ibn Sa`d’s Kitab al-Tabaqat al-Kabir, translated by S. Moinul Haq, volume 2, pages 30-31.

SARIYYAH OF `UMAYR IBN `ADI Then (occurred) the sariyyah of `Umayr ibn `Adi Ibn Kharashah al-Khatmi against `Asma’ Bint Marwan, of Banu Umayyah Ibn Zayd, when five nights had remained from the month of Ramadan, in the beginning of the nineteenth month from the hijrah of the apostle of Allah. `Asma’ was the wife of Yazid Ibn Zayd Ibn Hisn al-Khatmi. She used to revile Islam, offend the prophet and instigate the (people) against him. She composed verses. Umayr Ibn Adi came to her in the night and entered her house. Her children were sleeping around her. There was one whom she was suckling. He searched her with his hand because he was blind, and separated the child from her. He thrust his sword in her chest till it pierced up to her back. Then he offered the morning prayers with the prophet at al-Medina. The apostle of Allah said to him: “Have you slain the daughter of Marwan?” He said: “Yes. Is there something more for me to do?” He [Muhammad] said: “No. Two goats will butt together about her. This was the word that was first heard from the apostle of Allah. The apostle of Allah called him `Umayr, “basir” (the seeing).

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13 thoughts on “Asia Bibi, Freedom of Speech and Muslims’ feelings”

  1. When recently the European Court of Human Right (ECHR) decides that the blasphemy is not a part of Free Speech, where’s the riot or demonstration from those alleged Free Speech activists? Nothing.
    That’s a clear result of facts that if you have no something “sacred”, no something “worthy to defend”, no thing to be necessarily respected by earning it seriously, you just don’t care about it, you just get along.

    Honor of Prophet and religion is so sacred in Islam. It is something worthy to defend by Moslems, from Moderate ones, traditional ones, new converts, to secular ones, even clerical ones.

    For the so-called Free Speech “activists” or Free Speech “defenders” there are no sacred things, not even Free Speech itself. So, why would the clerics respect it?

  2. This is dilemma: if Free Speech is a kind of religion, it is sacred.
    But, by that, the religion also has a right to determine which sacred ones are that cannot be disturbed.

    Otherwise: If Free Speech is not sacred, why do the clerics need to respect it?

  3. A critique can be wrong at a wrong time, in a wrong place.
    Even Jesus feels it somewhat necessary to “run away” after he perceived how Jews feel (subjectively) that Jesus has a bit “belittled” Abraham improperly, when he’s telling that he is more older and more bigger than Jewish ancestor.

    Why does Jesus approve a death penalty for a mocker of one’s ancestors?
    Why? Because Jesus knows better that Antichrist is a blasphemer.
    Insulting is a main evil character of Antichrist. Jesus approves the death penalty on the blasphemers because he himself will kill Antichrist.
    Moreover, Paul lists the revilers as an evil group that cannot get salvation.
    Dan 11:36
    And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.
    Rev 13:6
    And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

    Cases:
    – Miriam, who criticised Moses’ new wife (eventually she died by a curse of leprosy).
    Miriam got killed by a leprosy inflicted by God after she’s criticising Moses’ new wife, even though (we can allege) Moses must have never approved such a punishment on his sister Miriam, but Aaron was somehow somewhat spared.
    God’s punishment can be quite random on the blasphemy case.

    – Men and elderly men of Succoth, whose princes mocked Gideon (eventually they were tortured with the thorns and briers).
    Christians and Jews have the “Book of Judges” (similar to the absence of Caliphates) in which the readers can realise how the local judges are not sufficient to stop the Jews from doing whatever they like for doing vigilante, thus there’s a place or a time for the lacking of enforcement of the law.

    Each Jew does whatever he feels proper in the Book of Judges. Gideon tortured entirely men and elderly men of Succoth city with the thorns and the briers, for a simple mockery by their miserly princes (a small case of refusing to give the breads).
    Jud 8
    5 And he said unto the men of Succoth, Give, I pray you, loaves of bread unto the people that follow me; for they be faint, and I am pursuing after Zebah and Zalmunna, kings of Midian. 6 And the princes of Succoth said, Are the hands of Zebah and Zalmunna now in thine hand, that we should give bread unto thine army? 7 And Gideon said, Therefore when the LORD hath delivered Zebah and Zalmunna into mine hand, then I will tear your flesh with the thorns of the wilderness and with briers. 16 And he took the elders of the city, and thorns of the wilderness and briers, and with them he taught the men of Succoth.

    – Shimei the son of Gera, who insulted David during his time as a fugitive (eventually he was stabbed by Benaiah).
    – Nabal, who insulted king David (eventually he was killed by a paralysis).
    – Adonijah and Joab, who insulted king Solomon by wanting David’s concubine Abishag (eventually they were stabbed by Benaiah).
    – Group of youths, who insulted Elisha’s head (eventually they were slain by a bear).
    – Assyrians, who mocked king Hezekiah (eventually all mighty men were killed by angel).
    – Hanun, who humiliated David’s servants (eventually he was killed along with 47,000 Syrians).

  4. On the ways of God’s punishment:
    A theme of various penalties (either thru natures or Moslem’s hands) upon the sinful infidels is indeed a kind of favorite topic in Qur’an, even clearly repeated, in order to prove to us Moslems how their infidel gods don’t care at all about them, let alone to protect them, because their weak gods are false gods.

    When/if the infidels themselves sow a fear (fearmongering) for themselves, it means their gods have abandoned them for us Moslems. The infidel’s inferiority complex is a mirror of the falsehood of their weak gods.

    When it comes to the punishment thru Moslem’s hands, actually Allah prefers a way of expulsion, banishment, even imposition of Jizya to decimate the infidel’s numbers. There’s no Holocaust in Arabia, but the Arabian Christians and Arabian Jews just choose to go away.
    (i) Allah prefers to expel the Jews (wars against Banu Qanuqa and Naders).
    (ii) Allah prefers to impose Jizya rather than expulsion on Jews (war of Khaybar).
    (iii) Allah prefers to stop a war against the Byzantines (Tabouk campaign).
    (iv) Allah also prefers to cause the civil wars among the infidel’s Confederations (Trench war).
    (v) Allah also prefers to spare the lives of Makkah’s residents (Makkah’s conquest).

    On nature’s punishment, there are two forms.
    There’s a “miraculous” natural destruction caused by the infidels’ rejection of Prophets, and mostly that typical punishment was executed thru Prophet’s direction (such as several Egyptian plagues enforced by Moses), and there’s a more unexpected natural destruction caused by the infidels’ rejection of stopping a regular daily sin.

    The Makkah’s pagans know better a notorious History how Allah destroys Yemeni invaders riding the elephants, by simply using the lethal diseases.

    During the Badr war, there are at least three big sandstorms that devastated the pagans, before then Moslems so easily finish off those weakened sinners.
    During the Trench war, there’s a huge cold hurricane that forced the infidel’s Confederates to flee from Madinah’s borders.
    Allah helped Moslems a lot by weakening the pagans with the natural forces.

    Allah has the more higher will of preferring to see the Makkah’s infidels alive so that they could repent. That choice works. After both the Badr and the Trench wars, more and more Makkah’s pagans converted by their choice to Islam. Many Makkah pagans during the life of Prophet Muhammad choose to convert to Islam immediately after seeing the natural signs, such as in Badr and Trench wars.

  5. On Qur’an and its relation with the Bible:

    Can Qur’an stand on its feet? Yes, it is what Qur’an calls “Shari’ah”, the guidance for Moslems only.
    Throughout Qur’an, it is underlined with the bold statements that Allah sends down Qur’an with the strong sign for Allah’s presence in it, which can be perceived (even challenged and tested) so “visible”, i.e. on the perfection of Qur’an without discrepancy.

    Q.39, v.28 An Arabic Quran without any crookedness, that they may guard.

    Thus, Reading the Qur’an is as seeing the divine presence in it.
    Qur’anic inerrancy is like a slave owned by one master only.

    A parable of “One slave owned by many masters” is a direct sarcasm for the unsolved contradictions and silly discrepancies of having 4 Gospels from 4 fallible writers.

    Now, Qur’an also mentions a pattern of referring to the “Bible”, but with a more greater purpose to “correct” our ignorant definition of the Bible itself. Today’s Bible is not original Bible, it needs to be amended by Qur’an. The stories of previous Prophets are decimated in Islam to be a mere continuation of Monotheism.

    So, Qur’an stands on its feet. Qur’an calls that “Shari’ah”, the guidance for Moslems only.

    Does the Bible have a flaw in Monotheism? Unfortunately, yes.
    Consistency of Faith is a more reliable tester of divinity. Divinity is not determined by the power to predict the future. God is not a fortune teller.
    We can’t be so sure what exactly the real “faith” of Biblical God was, especially at time when he allowed king Solomon to run his pagan belief in Jerusalem, but weirdly he destroyed other kings who do the same sins.

    Allah as the Only Monotheist God has existed in “many names” outside of Arabia: Aten in Egypt, Yah in Judaism, El Yon in Levant, Ahuramazda in Persia, et cetera.

  6. Some important notes on Monotheism:

    (i) There are many makers, but there’s only One God as the Best One of “creators” (plural):
    Isa 45:16
    They shall be ashamed, and also confounded, all of them: they shall go to confusion together that are *makers* of idols.

    (ii) Ezekiel creates the living armies from the bones, by God’s permission, with the helping of a wind.
    Nobody in Judaism worships Ezekiel.
    Ezek 37
    9 Then said he unto me, Prophesy unto the wind, prophesy, son of man, and say to the wind, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe upon these slain, that they may live.10 So I prophesied as he commanded me, and the breath came into them, and they lived, and stood up upon their feet, an exceeding great army.

    (iii) With God’s alongside the Prophets, they (such as Ezekiel in the Bible, Moses who makes the serpent from the rod, Salih who makes a camel out of the stone, and Jesus in Apocrypha who makes the bird out of the clay) can be counted as “creators”, but not as Gods:
    Q.22, v.73. O men, Here is a parable set forth, listen to it, Those on whom, *besides* Allah, ye call, cannot create even a fly, if they all met together for the purpose, and if the fly should snatch away anything from them, they would have no power to release it from the fly. Feeble are those who petition and those whom they petition.

    (iv) Swearing by creations (such as by heavens and by Throne) is not idolatry if the main intention is the Lord who owns the Throne and heavens, or that the swearing is just a figurative way of calling to witness:
    Mt 23:22
    And he that shall swear by heaven, sweareth by the throne of God, and by him that sitteth thereon.

    In the Torah:
    Dt 4:26
    I call heaven and earth to witness against you this day, that ye shall soon utterly perish from off the land whereunto ye go over Jordan to possess it; ye shall not prolong your days upon it, but shall utterly be destroyed.

    On Hadith:
    Nasa’i, Vol. 4, Book 35, Hadith 3804
    It was narrated from ‘Abdullah bin Yasar, from Qutailah, a woman from Juhainah, that a Jew came to the Prophet and said: You are setting up rivals (to Allah) and associating others (with Him). You say: Whatever Allah wills and you will, and you say: By the Ka’bah. So the Prophet commanded them, if they wanted to swear an oath, to say: By the Lord of the Ka’bah; and to say: Whatever Allah wills, then what you will.

  7. Salawat in the Bible.
    Salawat from God, how God prays figuratively (implores, entreats politely), to the Jews and their sinners so that they may ask His grace:
    Mal 1
    8 And if ye offer the blind for sacrifice, is it not evil? and if ye offer the lame and sick, is it not evil? offer it now unto thy governor; will he be pleased with thee, or accept thy person? saith the LORD of hosts. 9 And now, * pray you*, beseech God that he will be gracious unto us: this hath been by your means: will he regard your persons? saith the LORD of hosts.

    Hag 2
    14 Then answered Haggai, and said, So is this people, and so is this nation before me, saith the LORD; and so is every work of their hands; and that which they offer there is unclean. 15 And now, *I pray you*, consider from this day and upward, from before a stone was laid upon a stone in the temple of the LORD:16 Since those days were, when one came to an heap of twenty measures, there were but ten: when one came to the pressfat for to draw out fifty vessels out of the press, there were but twenty.17 I smote you with blasting and with mildew and with hail in all the labours of your hands; yet ye turned not to me, saith the LORD.

    Isa 5
    3 And now, O inhabitants of Jerusalem, and men of Judah, judge, *I pray you*, betwixt me and my vineyard.6 And I will lay it waste: it shall not be pruned, nor digged; but there shall come up briers and thorns: I will also command the clouds that they rain no rain upon it. 7 For the vineyard of the LORD of hosts is the house of Israel, and the men of Judah his pleasant plant: and he looked for judgment, but behold oppression; for righteousness, but behold a cry.

    Paul prays politely to his hungry followers so that they may eat meat:
    Acts 27
    33 And while the day was coming on, Paul besought them all to take meat, saying, This day is the fourteenth day that ye have tarried and continued fasting, having taken nothing.34 Wherefore *I pray you* to take some meat: for this is for your health: for there shall not an hair fall from the head of any of you.

  8. Does the Bible have a flaw in Monotheism? Unfortunately, yes.
    The Bible needs a correction by Qur’an.

    We can’t be so sure what exactly the real “faith” of Biblical God was, especially at time when he allowed king Solomon to run his pagan belief in Jerusalem, but weirdly he destroyed other kings who do the same sins.

    How is it possible for Biblical God to be bound by a “feeling” of *dead David*, so that he can’t punish an idolatrous Solomon?
    What horrible madness is it? It proves a corruption of the Bible.
    1Ki 11
    4 For it came to pass, when Solomon was old, that his wives turned away his heart after other gods: and his heart was not perfect with the LORD his God, as was the heart of David his father. 12 Notwithstanding in thy days I will not do it for David thy father’s sake: but I will rend it out of the hand of thy son.13 Howbeit I will not rend away all the kingdom; but will give one tribe to thy son for David my servant’s sake, and for Jerusalem’s sake which I have chosen.

  9. There are at least two idolatrous leaders in the Bible: Aaron and Solomon. What is weird is, Biblical God doesn’t punish both Jewish leaders for the idolatry they commit:
    – Aaron, who makes a golden Calf for the Jews.
    Exo 32
    5 And when Aaron saw it, he built an altar before it; and Aaron made proclamation, and said, To morrow is a feast to the LORD.35 And the LORD plagued the people, because they made the calf, which Aaron made.
    – Solomon, who sets up the idols in Jerusalem.
    1Ki 11
    4 For it came to pass, when Solomon was old, that his wives turned away his heart after other gods: and his heart was not perfect with the LORD his God, as was the heart of David his father. 12 Notwithstanding in thy days I will not do it for David thy father’s sake: but I will rend it out of the hand of thy son.13 Howbeit I will not rend away all the kingdom; but will give one tribe to thy son for David my servant’s sake, and for Jerusalem’s sake which I have chosen.

  10. Geocentric model in the Bible:

    The Sun sets at the great sea:
    Josh 1:4
    From the wilderness and this Lebanon even unto the great river, the river Euphrates, all the land of the Hittites, and unto the great sea toward the going down of the sun, shall be your coast.

    The Sun sets at Jordan:
    Dt 11:30
    Are they not on the other side Jordan, by the way where the sun goeth down, in the land of the Canaanites, which dwell in the champaign over against Gilgal, beside the plains of Moreh?
    1Ki 22:36
    And there went a proclamation throughout the host about the going down of the sun, saying, Every man to his city, and every man to his own country.

    The Sun moves *backward* to the east underneath at the night?
    Eccl 1:5
    The sun also ariseth, and the sun goeth down, and hasteth to his place where he arose
    Ps 104:19
    He appointed the moon for seasons: the sun knoweth his going down.

  11. Several facts that Allah abrogates (or made the words forgotten) the Bible:
    (i) Moses and Pharaoh would not have used Hebrew (language of slaves), but the lost “Ancient Egyptian” language.

    Original Book of Genesis should not have been in Hebrew.

    (ii) Moses and his wife alongside his family would not have used Hebrew, but the lost “Ancient Canaan-Phoenician” language.

    Original Book of Exodus should not have been in fully Hebrew.

    (iii) Gabriel would not have spoken using a Greek language to Mary during the Annunciation.
    Original Book of Luke should not have been in Greek.

    (iv) Jesus and Jews would not have spoken using a Greek language when using the ancient Aramaic at the same time.
    Example of Aramaic: Talitha kum, Ephphatha, Abba, Raca, Mammon, Rabbuni, Maranatha, Eli Eli lema sabachthani, Jot and tittle, Korban, Sikera, Hosanna.

  12. What is the meaning of abrogation in Qur’an?

    (i) Several verses were *downgraded* to be so-called “Hadith Qudsi” or Hadith with such higher level.
    Example: Hadith of suckling and stoning:
    -Umar knows that he cannot not *add* a Rajam (stoning) verse into Qur’an, so the penalty is downgraded into a similar level of Hadith Qudsi:
    Jami at-Tirmidhi, Vol. 3, Book 15, Hadith 1431
    ‘Umar bin Al-Khattab said: The Messenger of Allah stoned, Abu Bakr stoned, and I stoned. If I didn’t dislike that *I add to the Book of Allah*, I would have written it in the Mushaf, for I fear that there will come a people and they will not find it in the Book of Allah, so they will disbelieve in it.

    -Suckling was downgraded to a similar level of Hadith Qudsi:
    Muwatta Malik, Book 30, Hadith 17
    A’isha, the wife of the Prophet said, Amongst what was sent down of the Qur’an was ten known sucklings make haram – then it was abrogated by five known sucklings. When the Messenger of Allah died, it was what is now recited of the Qur’an. Yahya said that Malik said, One does not act on this.

    (ii) Certain content of Hadith Qudsi was *derived* from separate verses of Qur’an:
    Example:
    Hadith Qudsi Hadith 2
    On the authority of Abu Hurayrah, who said that the Messenger of Allah said: Allah Almighty has said: The son of Adam denied Me and he had no right to do so. And he reviled Me and he had no right to do so. As for his denying Me, it is his saying: He will not remake me as He made me at first – and the initial creation [of him] is no easier for Me than remaking him. As for his reviling Me, it is his saying: Allah has taken to Himself a son (Quran 2:116), while I am the One, the Everlasting Refuge. I begot not nor was I begotten, and there is none comparable to Me (Quran 112:1-4).

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